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  • ME

    Having grown up Catholic all my life, I’ve never been to an Evangelical service, but I have been to other Protestant weddings. I’ve always had a difficult time with the wedding ceremony that lasts 20 minutes. Give me an hour long mass any time. 🙂 Also having grown up in the Catholic church, the idea of going to a concert on Sunday mornings is a difficult concept for me to grasp. I’m grateful that others find a connection to God through those services, but I am ever grateful that I was given the gift of the Catholic church from the beginning.

    • I am with you 100% on the concerts. People are deciding what church they go to based on the band. Sometimes, the shows last about 20 minutes before the service starts. Seems a little warped to me.

      • Yamilex Davila

        What i don’t like is the concert like worship that is given because thats not what its about, to me its about hearing the word of God, when Jesus was preaching he didn’t have a band going crazy or a stage put up front, he would sit and everyone around was sitting or standing listening peacefully. And that’s what i love about the Catholic Church its very peaceful

      • Gresu

        Obviously, it is not a Catholic Church when its liturgy focuses upon entertainment. People must run from these establishments.

  • Katii Spiess

    I grew up Catholic and fell away for awhile. In no way did I ever think that God would bring me back to the Church through a Non-denominational church but that is exactly what happens. Everything you posted is true (although there are a lot of groups in the parish’s depending on which parish you’re in… sometimes you have to seek them out.) But the one major difference for me was the Eucharist, I couldn’t imagine living without it, I loved the music and the atmosphere of the non-denominational church but it was missing something…. i.e. the Eucharist

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  • Nick Alexander

    To be fair, there are plenty of mainline Protestant churches that reflect more of your Catholic experiences, and that there are pockets of Catholic parishes (in the global experience) that reflect more of your non-denominational experiences. These lines are getting blurred.

    • I know. I was raised Lutheran and my parents are now Methodist. I went to a Non-denomination private high-school. That plus many other extensive experiences. I have been around. “To be fair”, would take a lot more writing.

  • Guest

    It’s beautiful to see that Jesus is diverse and meets all of our needs. I have read numerous testimonies from protestants as well that relay the same truths…only from a protestant point of view. It seems most (not all), but most folks are led back to their roots.
    The bottom line is that “man looks at the outer appearance, but God looks at the heart”; and until we all look at others with the same intent, we have missed his point completely.

    • Scarbender307

      Laser like to the point! Thank you.

  • Gresu

    “The practice of ‘diversity’ eventually leads to no faith and no morals because there are no absolutes. The Trinity is lost and the sense of the Divine in diversity is replaced with man-made situational ethics which always causes harmful consequences.

    • AnneG

      So, Gresu, you are a sedevacantist schismatic, right?

      • Gresu

        AnneG – Respectfully, read the following:

        http://www.cmri.org/why-we-believe-the-chair-of-peter-is-vacant.shtml

        Sedevacantists preserve the authentic Catholic Faith. Sedevacantists defend the Papacy/Magisterium, and the Total Deposit of Faith WITHOUT EXCEPTION. If one loves Christ, His Church and His Blessed Mother, grievously the only option during this time is sedevacantism. Sedevacantists priests and bishops will not under any circumstances say the protestant/Lutheran/masonic novus ordo missae contrived by 6 protestants. Souls are at grave risk if they attend the new order mass. Sedevacantists priests are Apostolic and not ordained under the new rite promulgated by Paul VI who tampered with matter and form in each of Vatican II’s new Sacraments that no longer give the grace they signify. The consecration of bishops was changed by Paul VI making their consecrations doubtful that in turn abolished the legitimate priesthood: http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/invalid-novusordo-bishops.htmd.
        These are difficult facts, to be certain. If one wants to be Catholic one must renounce any attachment to the false claimants as Vicar starting with John XXIII and Vatican II Council satiated with 400 plus errors.

        • AnneG

          Gresu, I’m really sorry for you. This is not a good or charitable place to hijack this read. I hope God will give light to your mind and charity to your heart.

          • Gresu

            Respectfully,
            just before I left your church I discovered the pornographic series, “Growing
            In Love” put into the hands of youth held captive in the US bishop’s
            schools. I approached 4 ‘priests’ in
            your church, 3 of whom were ordained before Paul VI made changes to the bishop’s
            consecration that now make them doubtfully consecrated and ‘priests’ now merely
            presbyters. These chestless men in black
            wanted nothing to do to defend our youth being raised as the new barbarians
            Randy Engel speaks about in her book, “Sex Education the Final Plague”. Get a copy:

            http://www.newengelpublishing.com/products/Sex-Education-%252d-The-Final-Plague.html

            Then I
            discovered the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass offered by priests who have renounced
            the Masonic novus ordo mess called Mass and who have the courage to defend
            dogma and doctrines of the Catholic Faith.
            It was beautiful. I was a daily
            communicant in the new religion and once seeing truth in all its beauty in the
            True Mass, I never returned. So, I’ve
            seen the shenanigans around the ‘wooden table’ in the new order mass and the
            consequences of a false priesthood who claim sin no longer exists……….and so
            much more.

    • sskyking

      Your argument almost sounds as if you’ve made a form of worship a substitute for the God to be worshipped. No matter the form or the ritual, it is still the same one Christ, consubstantiated in the Eucharist. I’m a 20 year convert, and I’ve been through the “charismatic” form of Catholicism, the Franciscan form and I’m now in a more conservative form including the offering of the Mass in Latin. I have found all three to be beautiful in their own way, all three to be fully centered on Christ as the ultimate “absolute”. If you failed to find the same, then maybe it was in the way you were looking! Granted, there are some Bishops and Priests who misunderstood and misapplied the teaching of Vatican II, but that was individual error, not the error of the Church and it is trending back to a more faithful representation of the intended change. Your comments tend to imply that you haven’t actually READ the documents that resulted from Vatican II… at least not fully enough to comprehend. NOTHING essential to the faith was changed. Your statement that “all are welcomed without conversion” is a totally false summation. Your claim that the Church is no longer a contradiction to the world rings hollow when you consider the Church’s position and teaching on divorce, abortion, birth control, sexual promiscuity, secular humanism, pornography and the death penalty. In many cases, the Church is the only consistent voice on these issues.

      • Gresu

        This is what the bishops in the new religion post Vatican II Council ’62-65 do to Traditional Catholic Churches:

        http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/blase-cupich-enemy-christ.htm

        ….Or they raise them to the ground or sell them. The post Vatican usurpers turned Catholic Churches into dens of thieves.

        Read the “Growing In Love” sexualized catechetical curriculae the bishops mandate in their schools to destroy Catholic principles. The holy innocence of youth are used as fodder to destroy from within. Vatican II gave the green light to teach what was Supremely condemned – sex education in classrooms.

        It does not matter how the false claimants destroy. Their mission is to remove Catholic doctrine and dogma from the world.

        Read: “Animus Delendi-I Desire to Destroy” by Atila Sinke Guimarâes

      • Gresu

        sskyking I am a cradle Catholic. I saw the pews empty with the changes of the new order mass. As the interior of churches were stripped of their heavenly reminded beauty, people stripped their homes of what signified their Catholic Faith. Birth controlling became the norm because the ‘presbyters’ no longer preached of sin and its consequences. Morals became situational according to privately formed consciences separated from what Holy Mother Church time-honored teachings. Hell has frozen over and all souls are eulogized into Heaven. Church Suffering, souls in Purgatory await our prayers but they will not get their needed assistance to gain eternal beatitude from the Church of Nice/post vat 2 religion. Read the book:
        “Tumultuous Times” by Fr. Francisco Radecki and Fr. Dominic Radecki.
        No, I no longer sit in the pews of the Vatican owned churches as of 7 years ago. I knew within that there was wrong being done but did not know by whom was promoting and it and why. The scales were removed when I renounced the false Catholic Church run by those who are hell bent to destroy the Catholic Church currently residing in the Vatican.

        • sskyking

          I pity you.

          • Gresu

            Why do you refuse to defend the doctrines of Holy Mother Church?

  • Gresu

    Doug Johnson, You can’t imagine what your amazement would be if you were not in the post – conciliar, the Vatican II 1962-1965 Council new religion claimed Catholic where everything is made over but still claiming to be Catholic. The novus ordo missae, the Sacraments, the liturgies, the calendar, the religious’ education, the parochial school curriculae are a departure from what has been handed on…..If you saw Holy Mother Church, currently in the catacombs, and how the Mystical Body of Christ praises and worships according to Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and Magisterium, you would know that you have stepped into the one true Church Christ instituted. There is the noticeable difference. I was formerly in your church that no longer is a contradiction to the world. The new theology of the post Vatican II Council is that all are welcomed without conversion. That is not a Catholic principle. See: http://www.cmri.org

    • Bob

      Jesus is there in the Catholic Church in the form of the Eucharist. The deposit of Faith as was reveled by our Lord Jesus Christ in his public ministry and can not change. What can change is our disciplines such as the form of the Mass. The words of institution can’t change but what order during the mass some of the prayers are said has changed before. Even the language the Mass was said, for the Latin Rite, was changed to Latin from Greek.Latin was the vernacular at that time of the change. The Ordinary form of the mass is based on how the Mass was said before it was revised after the Council of Trent as Pope Paul VI said in his encyclical.
      I will always want to be part of the Church that Christ started, is headed by the successor of Peter to whom Christ gave the Keys of the Kingdom and Jesus said that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it.

      • Gresu

        Bob, I can assure you as promised the gates of
        hell did not prevail against the Catholic Church. Holy Mother Church is alive and well as
        promised but you will not find the true Faith personally taught by Jesus Christ
        to the Apostles, the first bishops handed on in the post Vatican 2 churches. They own or rather they stole the properties
        but they hate dogma. Are you aware that
        the novus ordo missae was fabricated by six protestants? It is everything Martin Luther designed for a
        new mass at the time of the Reformation.
        Burgnini and his henchmen presented the new order mass to Paul VI that was
        not offensive to prostestants. When the ‘men
        at the wooden table’ began preparing a meal for the assembly of the People of
        God in the novus ordo missae by the removal of their forefinger and thumb from
        the host using Unholy words of consecration, they proved they do not believe in
        ‘Transubstantiation’, in the Real Presence.
        These ‘presbyters’ mocking God handed out the hosts to laity to put into
        the hands of the people. According to
        the rubics of Holy Mother Church ONLY consecrated hands touch the
        Eucharist. Not so in your church. Anything and any which way goes. What a sham!!
        What blasphemies!! Presbyters are
        merely leaders of the new order mass and are not legitimately ordained to be
        priests. That’s another topic. Paul VI promulgated shame upon good Catholics with the masonic/Lutheran mess called a Mass
        and countless left beginning in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s. It took me a lot longer. I fell for Vatican II and all its trappings
        of heresies. I’m now safely home in the
        Catholic Church. Only by the grace of
        God go I.

        http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/catholic-mass-novus-ordo.htm

  • AnneG

    Doug, Welcome home. When we visit my son, daughter-in-law and grandkids we have to drag ourselves the Bible church they go to. Being in Austin, they have lots of talented musicians, but I find a real lack of worship. There doesn’t seem to be an understanding of what worship is. I don’t think it’s singing very loudly for half an hour, followed by an edited sermon. We usually go to mass first, then, to be charitable, we go with them. Btw, the grandkids love the statues, Holy Water and, especially, the candles.

    • My kids LOVE the Holy Water. They would jump in and swim in the font if they could.
      Yeah, I don’t know why so many churches have decided that the music is the most important part of church.

      • AnneG

        And with the modern, huge fountain style fonts, they do sometimes! Especially the boys.
        I’ve had to wear ear plugs for the music. The kids can’t even go in because of the dbs.

      • Rose

        Sadly, I think it’s because that way it’s more about them.

    • Gresu

      Doug Johnson, you are not safely home in the Church Christ instituted when the lance pierced His side on Calvary. Find out why, I beg of you! Yes, it’s miserable to discover one has fallen for fallacies, but for the sake of salvation of souls, be not afraid. The post Vatican 2 new religion has barely any resemblance to Catholic dogma and doctrines. In fact, the promulgations are contrary Pontiffs NEVER give new doctrine and ALWAYS bless Vicar of Christ predecessors. Pontiffs’ duties are to safeguard Sacred Tradition and the Total Deposit of Faith..

      • Laurence Charles Ringo

        Here’s a question for you,”Gresu”: Is the roman catholic church in charge of Almighty God? Listening to your whining about Almighty God’s children who are NOT catholics,one would think so.Grow up.

        • Gresu

          My point is mainly that Doug Johnson is not in the Catholic Church.

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            So what? Where is it written that EVERY Christian is supposed to be in your version of “catholic”church? If you mean in the proper definition of catholic,i.e. universal,EVERY baptized Christian is IN CHRIST,whatever theological construct any given institution erects around itself.Perhaps you should do a detailed examination of roman catholicism,as I have over the past 25 years.( In case you didn’t know,I’m the Resident Protestant Gadfly on these sites.).Let me ask you a quick question,Gresu: When pope Stephen dug up pope Formosus and put him on trial,do you think he,Stephen,was insane,or can a pope just do that? I await your reply.

          • Gresu

            A pope has a grave duty to defend dogma
            and create no innovations of his own.
            There were 9 popes named Stephen.
            Formosus is not one of the 41 antipopes listed in the history of the Catholic Church.

            To be a child of the Church Christ instituted is the most glorious title for a Christian and second only to that
            of a “Child of God”. These titles cannot be separated for one depends upon the other.

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            Hmm…I’m going to operate on the assumption that you simply didn’t understand my question,and flesh it out a bit here,Gresu.In January of the year 897 A.D.,Pope Stephen VII had his predecessor,Pope Formosus,disinterred and put on trail.After being found guilty of various charges,Pope Stephen VII had all of Formosus’acts and ordinations declared null and void,his corpse stripped of his vestments,the three fingers of his”blessing hand”cut off,and his body buried in a”layman’s”grave (it was later dug up,dragged through the streets of Rome,weighted down and thrown into the Tiber.)—So,my question was,was Pope Stephen VII insane,or was his bizarre actions something a pope can just do if he chooses? [ By the way,this whole ridiculous spectacle is known in history as The Cadaver Synod.]—As for your second remark,the most glorious”title” a christian can be known by is: CHRISTIAN,a bona-fide Biblical title,if you will.ALL baptized Christians everywhere can claim THAT title.PEACE IN CHRIST.

          • Gresu

            In all due respect, Laurence Charles Ringo, your question is a distraction from what Catholics ought to discuss with a protestant considering the tumultuous times we live in. Pope St. Pius X motto was, “To restore all things in Christ” versus the current trend to restore pandering to the whims of men. There is major warring against dogma, against the infallible papal pronouncements that bind all consciences
            and all authorities. Popes uphold and bless their predecessors. There is to be no discussion on these Supreme Teachings or we can say that the gates of hell have prevailed.
            The Vicar of Christ is Christ’s personal representative that defends and defines the Total Deposit of Faith and does not invent novelties. The infallibility of popes in matters of faith and morals preserves the essential elements of the Catholic Church. It is the vital link between Christ, St. Peter and his successors. Respectfully, I hope
            you become absorbed in defending Christ and His true Church.
            http://www.cmri.org/primer.html

          • Gresu

            It is written in the bible that EVERY Christian is to belong to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church or they are not Christian after all. Have you read the book “The Catholic Church is Proven by the Protestant Bible”?

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            Yeah…no,Gresu…you need to show me that EXACT phraseology,chapter and verse,for that claim to be even remotely credible.You’re so enslaved by what I call “catholic groupthink”,that you literally have lost the ability to evaluate what your own belief system teaches;sadly,you have mindlessly trod down the path of those who’ve…”loyally submitted their wills and intellects”…to the so-called “magisterium”.You know what my guiding mantra for all things Christian,Gresu? Proverbs 3 : 5-6.Mull and reflect,my friend.Oh,and one other thing…you might want to remember what your catechism said on page 235,section 818( The Profession of Faith),and I quote:…”All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called CHRISTIANS,and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church”….So…there you have it,Gresu.Not that I need affirmation of who I am IN CHRIST from mere men;I’ve been IN CHRIST for almost 40 years now.But as you can see,your own catechism disagrees with who YOU judge to be “christian”.Get over yourself,and move on.—PEACE IN CHRIST.

          • Gresu

            Respectfully, L C R, read Proverbs 3:7 .. ‘be not wise in thy own conceit’. My loyalty to the teachings of the Catholic Church (do not be confused by the false Catholic church Doug Johnson is in), are the specific directions of Christ when he personally taught the Apostles while He lived on earth. All the Catholic Church promulgates is rooted in those revelations and anything new since the death of the last Apostle is not of Christ’s teachings.
            No HARM WILL EVER COME TO ANOTHER IF ONE FOLLOWS the precepts of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. NO HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES ARE IMPOSED on another if one forms their conscience to these divinely infallible Supreme pronouncements.

          • Gresu

            L C R, it is not written that we are saved by Bible alone nor does the Bible certify itself. (The bible was given to the world by the Catholic Church.) Scripture states the world cannot hold the books containing all that Christ revealed during His life on earth. He promised to send an advocate, the Holy Spirit to guide His Church so that none of His revelations would be forgotten. Christ loves us so much that He remains with us in the Blessed Sacrament that gives us Food for our souls needed on our pilgrim journey on earth. Jesus sanctified His Church with His blood. He made the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church to be collaborator, to continue the work of sanctifying and directing souls. He abides in the Mystical Body, His Church and is the invisible living Head. The union of Christ and His Church is vital and regarded as the prolongation of Christ. He sustains His Church in a divine manner.

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            Two things,Gresu:(1),we are saved by Christ Alone,NOT”Bible”(where’d you get THAT from??),and 2nd Timothy 3 : 16,17 says that Scripture DOES”certify”itself. (2), the Scriptures that Jesus taught from,as well as Paul,Peter, John and the other disciples / apostles preached from was most certainly NOT given to them by your church,which obviously didn’t exist during that time in history,so save that old tired canard;Almighty God revealed the Scriptures that HE wanted preserved for the guidance and teachings of His Blood-bought people.While He did use various individuals chosen by Him to compile His Word,no given institution was a necessity to do so;concepts like “necessity” don’t apply to our Omnipotent Lord,so don’t get it confused.We have the Scriptures exactly as the Lord God intended,and your man-centered institution merely discovered the already approved canon;you didn’t give the Sacred Scriptures to anyone,so again,get over yourself and spare me the tiresome catholic propaganda.Now,I’m done with this issue, and I wish you well,and God bless you.

            .

          • Gresu

            L C R, Sacred Scripture states, “He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day” John 6:55. The Body and Blood of Christ is consecrated in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass only. It is called transubstantiation.
            You need to talk to a legitimate priest. L C R to clear up your differences and separation from Christ. Are anyone of these close to you:

            http://www.cmri.org/traditional-latin-mass-directory.shtml

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            Seriously,Gresu…I’m as familiar with the tenets of roman catholicism as you think you are,perhaps even more so,so give it a rest,O.K? In case you didn’t know it,I’m the Resident Protestant Gadfly on these sites,and as I’ve said before,to drive the point home to you,I’m most definitely NOT impressed by the bogus, contrived, man-centered institution known as the roman catholic church.Did you know that the Epistle to the Hebrews nullifies both the so-called”Mass”AND the non-existent”purgatory,not to mention the invented sacredotal system of your priesthood? And the only place that I am”separated from Christ”is in your imagination? ( I take it you disagree with you catechism,then?)

          • Oh. You’re one of those. I can appreciate your passion, but it doesn’t sway me at all.

          • Gresu

            Vatican II church abandoned The Papal Oath to be taken by all Roman pontiffs, showing that no
            Roman pontiff has the authority to contradict the Deposit of Faith, or to change or innovate upon what has been handed by to him by Sacred Tradition and his predecessors:
            The oath makes it clear that a magisterium that contradicts former magisterium is not magisterium, for the pope is sworn to put himself outside the Church if even he contradicts what he has received from his predecessors.
            The papal oath, therefore, foresees the possibility that even a pope may become a heretic or schismatic by violating either dogma or the rites of the Church handed down by Tradition.
            The new religion of Vatican II turned its back on Magisterial / papal infallible pronouncements; and clearly is protestant and warring against dogma. Have you read, “Liberalism is a Sin” and or at least one of the 16 documents by popes warning Catholics against the sin of modernism the heresy of all heresies?

          • Gresu

            Doug, I stand on the Total Deposit of Faith Holy Mother Church teaches. What is your substance, your source, and your defense?

          • Gresu

            Why do you fear asking “one of those” questions? BTW, I am a Catholic and member of the Mystical Body of Christ.

  • Gresu

    This Sunday the crucifixes and statues are covered with purple in the Catholic Church. The Gospel reminds the Christian that the world hates the Truth and seeks to destroy Him Who reminds them of the purpose of their creation: To know, love and serve God. Whether it be the defense of the unborn, the defense of the family, the defense of the innocence of children who go to public school, the defense of the ability of the Church to teach all nations and bring all men to the knowledge of the Truth, the world will deny the right to the Catholic to speak the truth. The world will shout: Are we not right in saying thou art a Samaritan [in error, not who we are of the world, the enemy], and hast a devil? (John 8:48) As Christ, as the saints, the Catholic must honor God the Father (cf. John 8:49) first and foremost—even at the cost of life—which belongs to God and Who will not allow it to be lost eternally.
    May Catholics be strong in expressing the Truth that abortion is murder, sodomy is perversion and against nature, fornication destroys families and it is not the place of public schools or the US bishop’s schools to teach children it is normal and how to engage in these immoral acts. Holy Mother Church does condemn these sins.

  • Gresu

    Doug Johnson — See the horror of what is claimed Catholic. ADVENTURE LAND “MASS”! http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/#.VRBpx1Ln_95
    I assure you these kinds of activities have been condemned.

  • Gresu

    Doug Johnson, Please give your attention to this Pontiff’s universal promulgation:
    OATH AGAINST MODERNISM
    http://www.dailycatholic.org/oathvmod.htm

  • Michelle

    Mass, when heaven and earth join together in the one sacrifice, where we are allow to participate and offer this one sacrifice…the Eucharist…together with the angels and saints, asking our Lord to give us this grace, to make us living tabernacles after we receive Him. I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum as far as these differences you speak of, yes, even in the Catholic Church, but I have grown closer to Christ through the sacredness and the BEAUTY of our tradition. LOVE IT!! Give me stained glass windows, traditional hymns, boy altar servers wearing cassocks (possible future priests in training), and all that our beautiful Church offers!

    By the way, LOVE your wife and adore her…God bless her for all the work she does. God bless your beautiful family!!

  • LucyInTheSky

    If you’re the type who enjoys praising through singing and dancing, just join catholic groups. Here in the Philippines we have Youth for Christ or Singles for Christ to name a few. They have the same kind of praise and worship that these “other churches” do. Then on Sundays you go to church for the ultimate celebration, the Eucharistic celebration (Holy Mass). And you can even hear mass daily if you wish to. For me this is the big difference, we have both. They only have one, the singing and dancing type of praise and worship.

  • LeMayzing

    Doug, I hope your “cry room” is more sedate than many I’ve seen. We found with our boys (only blessed with 2) that sitting up front where they could see the actions on the altar kept them interested and quiet. When one did get fussy I would take him to the cry room BUT stand and hold him in front of the window so he didn’t think he could just get down and play like the other kids! They quickly learned it was better to be quiet in the pew than noisy in the cry room!

  • Gresu

    This “Mass” was presided over by the general editor of the CCC of the
    ’80s, Christoph Cardinal Schönborn:

    This “Bumper Car Mass” definitely rivals the Austrian outdoor “Western Mass”, where participants smoked and ate hot dogs and burgers during the “Eucharistic Celebration”, which was presided over by “Cardinal” Schonborn’s cathedral rector, Anton Faber, who used the Lutheran version of the Apostles’ Creed (which replaces “the holy Catholic Church” with “the holy Christian Church”). See two videos on that below:

    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.VSvcjFLn_94

    Doug Johnson, Please comment.

  • Gresu

    Doug Johnson, Popes have taught consistently that Catholics must be united to the Chair of Peter (of course only if validly occupied). Pope Leo XIII forcefully taught union with Peter in his encyclical Satis Cognitum, n. 13. He also taught the Pope is the strong and effective instrument of salvation in Annum Ingressi Sumus. Therefore, it makes a difference and it does matter who is seated as Vicar. Can anyone say the Novus Ordo sect’s current head has submitted and respected and is teaching the true faith of the past 2000 years, that is Sacred Tradition and all Magisterial Teachings?
    Of course they cannot for he is clearly warring against the precepts of Holy Mother Church. Vatican II has been an effective instrument of damnation, by disseminating the most noxious errors and heresies to the point where all Christendom has virtually collapsed. If the Novus Ordo sect is the true Catholic Church, then the Church established by Christ has failed and Christ is a liar. But Catholics know this is impossible.
    Please watch the 2-hour excellent conference on this topic free of charge on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/sanborn-vatican2-heresies.
    Bishop Sanborn explains why it is impossible for the Catholic Church to fail, but possible for individuals to defect even papal claimants who arise and deceive.
    See also “Historical Precedents of Papal Impostors”
    http://tinyurl.com/papal-imposters

  • Gresu

  • Mary R Lauer

    Doug, you have a ways to go before you and your wife are fully Catholic. Your analysis of the differences between the Catholic chuch and other sects comes from a Protestant outlook, and so are the reasons for joining: i.e., to be active in committees (not comites.) There needs to be a greater understanding and appreciation of the sacraments, as Kattii Spiess had said. You can start by reading the writings of Pius X, the lives of the saints, and church history. Over time, these writings will help you shed your Protestant views.

  • Jen Ayres

    So, next time you come to Maryland, check out Church of the Nativity in Timonium. It’s the best of both worlds (while still being traditionally Catholic). Our Pastor wrote a book about what we do, a best-seller.

    https://www.avemariapress.com/product/1-59471-386-3/Rebuilt/

  • Doug, the “how we pray” really made me smile-because it is so true! Whenever I pray with Protestant friends, I wonder just how many times “Father God” will wind up in the prayer. Nothing wrong with that, but it is interesting! I’ve also noticed that non-Catholic Christians I know tend to focus a lot more on rebuking the devil in their prayers, with phrases like “Today has been such a struggle-Satan, I bind and rebuke you and cast you out from my life.” Whereas it seems that Catholics focus a lot more on saintly intercession, and many Catholics also don’t seem to attribute every single bad thing in life to an attack from the devil.